Critter #1 was just crawling out of the creek bank, I think. The back legs are possibly still below, out of the picture.
I lightened it up a bit, but I'm not sure it helps. This is about the limit of the flash's range, unfortunately.
Critter #2 does us the favor of showing his tail.
Here's the picture lightened up a little.
Since there's no perspective for size in these pics, here are the larger uncropped shots. I'm including yesterday's deer and coyote for comparison. Ignore the times/dates - they got a little off, and haven't been reset.
I'm fairly certain that critter #2 is a muskrat (Ondatra zibethicus). We don't have nutria here, and I don't know what else would have a tail like that.
What is critter #1? I was really trying to make him into a mink, but the more I look, the more I think he's really an otter. Especially when I compare with these earlier game cam shots. But let me know what you think.
Here are more otter pictures, in daylight.
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Here is a closer look at critter #2 (click to enlarge slightly):
This is where I am seeing his outline, and why I thought it was a chunky muskrat. This may not be right, however. Like I said, it's difficult to see where his back ends and the brush behind him begins.
Actually, my gut impression is that they are both otters. Muskrats have skinny tails, but they are substantially smaller than otters. They're also shaped differently: more like a round furry ball with a rat tail vs. the sinuous weasel shape of an otter.
ReplyDeleteSo I'd guess that creature #1 is an otter, and creature #2 is an otter with a skinny, fur-slicked tail. If he just crawled out of water, that could have slicked his tail so it looks ratty rather than otter-like.
(The un-articulated point of the first paragraph of my previous comment being that the two critters look to be the same size, whereas a muskrat would look noticeably smaller than an otter.)
ReplyDeleteHmm, you may be right. In the critter #1 pic, I was thinking that it is actually showing just half of his body. But it's kind of hard to tell. And I thought that critter #2 was much chunkier, but it's really difficult to discern where his back stops and where the brush behind him begins. Possibly he's not as big as I'd thought. If he's slim, he probably is an otter.
ReplyDeleteI would say Otter or mink.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely NOT Nutria. We have those here in Oregon and they are much fatter with bigger heads.
I think they're both otters.
ReplyDeleteOtters. Quite possibly 1. pregnant otter and 2. baby-daddy otter.
ReplyDeleteNo experience here, Rurality, and no opinion - I'm just enjoying both the photos and the discussion.
ReplyDeleteWhatever the critters are, I hope you see them again.
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I vote with the one otter one muskrat contingent, but it is hard to say. Neat photos anyhow
ReplyDeleteDo you have beavers around there? That skinny looking tail could actually be the side-shot of a flat beaver tail, maybe...
ReplyDeleteI otter know this one, but I'm otterly clueless.
ReplyDeleteOne may be an otter and two could be his dotter.
my guess would have been Muskrat also!
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone (except FC, but only because of his attempts at puns) that they must be otters. I hope you can set the camera a little close in the future.
ReplyDeleteAny tracks in the area?
Love the Game Cam......keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteI vote 2 otters. IMHO
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I vote mink and muskrat.
ReplyDeleteBased upon the time of day, manily and picking two animals close in size to eachother.
We have toms of muskrats, and the shape of that one seems quite similar to those I see here all the time. Picking another nocturnal animal similarly size, I'd pick mink--they're known to be good fishers and walk creek banks at night.
My only experience with otters has been that they enjoy broad daylight.
When I saw that pic, I thought it was one of those fish that walk on the land.. lol! I'm such a dim-wit...nuff said.
ReplyDeleteLoved the heron pictures. Soooo very pretty :)
No sort of educated opinion, but I thought otter and muskrat first. But really I like looking at the animal cam! Thanks for the post.
ReplyDeleteMy first instant impression is that they are otters. What ever they are I love the fact that you are able to catch them on camera.
ReplyDeleteI thought otter or mink. The body appears more like an otter.
ReplyDeleteNot sure either, but we DO have a LOT of beavers in this area. (I live about 30 miles north of your area, used to be on a farm and the beavers built a dam in our creek!) But I've never seen one up-close and personal, so couldn't be sure.
ReplyDeleteInteresting cam pix!
Fun challenge! I vote for otter and beaver (2008!). That angular, ramrod straight tail sure indicates a beaver to me. Check out beavers-beavers.com/beavers-pictures.htm (third photo). Bob Arnebeck has lots of info on beavers, otters, muskrat, and minks (see geocities.com/bobarnebeck/identification.html).
ReplyDeleteMuskrat and possibly a Fisher Cat. Fishers are more nocturnal than Otters, yet similar in size.
ReplyDeleteThanks everybody! I guess there is no way to tell for sure, since the photos are so dark.
ReplyDeleteSorry I didn't respond to comments earlier... I've been away at a gardening conference.
We have previously seen muskrats, beavers, and otters. We should also have minks, according to teh range maps. But no nutria (they're further south) or fishers (they're further north). No tracks in the immediate area at present.
Thanks also to those who left links, I will check them out.